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Please be careful not to Wikify names with roman numerals in them. No one is likely to write articles entitled "Doctor Fate II" or "The Flash III". More likely the Doctor Fate characters will all go into a Doctor Fate article, and if separate articles on the Flashes are necessary, they should be named things like The Flash (Golden Age), The Flash (Silver Age) and The Flash (Modern Age). -mhr 21:36, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Should we provide information regarding the teams in the "Justice Leagues" event of a few years back? User: Orville Eastland
Should we begin trying to compile a list of individuals who chaired the JLA (sort of like the lists of elected officials you see at the bottom of some pages)? User: Orville Eastland
Should we set up a seperate page devoted to listing the Supporting members of the JLA on their own? (Ex. Snapper Carr, Sue Dibney, Dale Gunn, Maxwell Lord...) (And I'm sorry for all the questions...) User: Orville Eastland
I know the retconned characters are listed by their chronological date in terms of when they were published...there:s another character, "Moon Maiden," that was retconned in a special...shouldn't she be added??
The problem is that character's past was overwritten, and thus "never happened...."
When did her past become overwritten? I'd be happy to hear it, as the character was useless, but where was this established? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
That's because there was never a JLA Annual that overwrote Moon Maiden. The only possible way she was removed was due to the current Infinite Crisis...but that hasn't been established yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
I added her, even if "this never happened", for a while he was part of the League. A minor correction, Vladimir Mikoyan was Rocket Red 1, the first of them, and the Manhunter one was just a cyborg, that was revealed when the JLI vessel crashlanded in Bialya. Considered destroyed, he reformed his artificial body an was ready to self destruct, but Booster Gold contained the explosion with his force field. I consider Dimitri Pushkin as Rocjet Red 4 (or 13 according to some issues) just until the destruction of his body armor by Lobo, and Rocket Red (no number) in his apokoliptian armor.
No retconned members are listed, no unofficial or honorary members (such as Sargon the Sorcerer or Adam Strange) are listed.
No need for listing all real names. Despites confusing the topic reading, only two or more characters with same names but different alter-egos have their real names listed. Lesfer ☎ 14:36, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I changed it a little bit, Adam Strange is an important ally, but was never a member, just like Gnort and Barda in the JLI run, but Sargon was a little more serious. Regarding alter egos, I think it is important to identify characters, regardless of "version". Feel free to change it back, thou. Ketin Porta
Wrong. In the original comic book series, he was listed as, and referred to as, a full member. He just didn't respond to many alerts.Duncan Beach (talk) 15:12, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
I've removed them from the list due to the following reasons:
1- They're another team
2- They're not officially linked to the JLA
3- Their members are not JLA official members
201.17.99.178 20:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh...but they are officially linked to the JLA, and played a role in the JLA vs. Crime Syndicate storyline. If you are going to include Justice League Anartica and the Justice League Task Force, then you need to include Justice League Elite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
Considering that the Elite featured 2 "core" JLA members (Flash and Green Arrow), 2 non-core members (Major Disaster and Manitou Raven) and was infiltrated by Batgirl for Batman (another core member), and considering that the team debuted in a Justice League Secret Files and went on to work side by side with the JLA in the above referenced story, the team IS linked to the JLA, whether you want to admit it or not.
As for Justice League Anarctica, Maxwell Lord created it as a way to keep the Injustice Gang busy...it was a ruse, and never intedned to be an official branch. You have to do more than look at the pictures Lesfer, you have to read the stories.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
Lesfer, do you actually read the books? Your edits most certainly do not reflect a knowledge of what's in them. Why don't you spend some time off this board and actually read. Several things I've seen you edit are horribly wrong.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
As I said, you aren't reading the books (which you just admitted) so you are making false comments in entries instead of referring to the facts of the stories. At least now everyone who reads this knows that you don't what you're talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
What about the members of the Justice Leagues appeared in the specials "Justice League of Aliens", "Justice League of Atlantis", "Justice League of Arkham", etc. etc.? Are they supposed to be totally fictional or can they be mentioned in a specific section? --Superchilum(talk to me!!) 18:14, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
And where was this established? Again, I'm all for it as the one-shots were a bit silly, but either reference where this was established Lesfer, or quit trying to bully the boards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
Yes, because the word of Lesfer is evidently law...even when he is wrong. Kind of like George Bush.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)
Can someone please add the new lineup of the new Justice League of America series? It's Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Greeen Lantern (Hal Jordan), Black Canary (Dinah Lance), Vixen, Arsenal, Black Lightning and Red Tornado. --PenaltyKillah 21:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for listening — J Greb 21:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm getting rid of Justice League Antartica members, only one-shot. Brian Boru is awesome 15:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to make all JL members just say Justice League. Not JL Europe. Brian Boru is awesome 02:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Who originally dictated that this was the rule?
"The JLA members are listed here in order of their first joining the team. None are listed twice. No retconned members are listed (except where they historically took part in the stories), no associates and unofficial or honorary members (such as Adam Strange, Sargon or Sandman Garrett Sanford) are listed, nor is the official team mascot Snapper Carr, nor are members of the Super Friends except when they are also Justice League members."
When Busiek and Perez did the JLA/Avengers crossover, they researched and included every member (No matter their status)ever of both teams in the story and on the cover of Issue number 3. Everyone who was ever a member of the League should be included in this list regardless of what their exact status was. Why bother having a page that is incomplete? The very least one should do is have an honorary/staff section or something along those lines, instead of ignoring a character all together. --Brianmccollum 17:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
What about Hawkeye (yes the Marvel Comics Character)? In his trivia section, it is establsished that he is a member, but when he was added, he was taken away. Should he not be listed as a member if this is eestablished in his trivia section? See:http://en.wikipedia.orghttps://bestencyclopedia.com/JLA/Avengers#Trivia
And who the devil decided that PROMETHEUS was ever a member? Freddy never joined the JLA - check your OWN list - and that wasn't Freddy to begin with. Duncan Beach (talk) 16:50, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
I have added a seperate section listing any non-ful members at the bottom of the page. Do not delete it. This Wikipedia page which is suppose to list all Justice League members is incomplete without it. I could use some help in correcting the links, if anyone can lend a hand, as i'm having trouble with that.
The information was compiled by Busiek and Perez for JLA/Avengers, particularly for Issue #3 cover.
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22335 www.george-perez.com
My other questions are, do we give a character seperate listings if they joined under different names at different times:
Batgirl: Should be listed. But she is not the same Barbara Gordon as Oracle. The Batgirl who is an honorary member of the Justice League was from an alternate reality where Barbara Gordon was not crippled by the Joker. She received membership after sacrificing her life in battle with Parallax during Zero Hour.
Diana: Wonder Woman joined the team in Justice League America #95 as Diana after losing the role of Wonder Woman to Artemis.
Bloodwynn: Was actually the Martian Manhunter when he joined in Justice League America #63. Later the real Bloodwynn joined after this revelation in Justice League America #76
Warrior: Guy Gardner joined as Warrior in Justice League America #100
--Brianmccollum 15:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Kilowog, Dale Gunn, Catherine Cobert, Oberon were all staff and were listed as members by both George Perez and Kust Busiek, two people who, unlike everyone making unnecessary changes here, are actually authorities on the subject and are sanctioned to make such decisions by DC Comics. I am basing my edits on their criteria and decisions. Agent Liberty and Black Condor are members too, the same with Lobo.
Every member of both teams appeared on the cover of JLA/Avengers issue #3, which clearly provides a solid reference for which this page can be safely based off from. Use link below to see image.
http://en.wikipedia.orghttps://bestencyclopedia.com/Image:Jla_avengers3.jpg
Second link contains a breakdown of who's who on the cover, complete with a short note about when they joined.
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22335 --Brianmccollum 16:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)--68.32.6.181 15:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
And staff is not membership, but supporters. Lesfer 16:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22335
Agent Liberty and Black Condor took membership in that story in Justice League America # 71 after Superman's death and left shortly thereafter. Agent Lbery also participated in the Sonar story arc in Justice League Europe #45-#50 (with issue #50 being renaming the book Justice League International).
Thanks for listing those books. The Lobo membership always took me by surprise, but I listed it based on the researched of the JLA/Avengers. At the very least, try Google-ing the crossover and look into some of the discussion involving the story. Busiek was very frothcoming on DCcomics.com message boards about who they included and why. He also mentioned why he left off Golden Eagle and some other characters.
Perhaps a section could be established for characters who have questionable/unconfirmed membership, such as Lobo, Black Condor, Golden Eagle others? Thoughts?
What of members who had dual identities on the team, such as Wonder Woman/Diana, Guy Gardner/Warrior, and Martian Manhunter/Bloodwynn? Should they not be listed twice or should some mention be made in their primary lsiting stating they served under another alias?
Again, thanks for listing those issues, as it aids in discussion greatly.
--Brianmccollum 17:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for joining the discussion and for the input. And the only buddy here is Buddy Baker, but enough kidding around...
-The list is copied from the charcater key to the cover of JLA/Avengers #3. The source is valid, as it refers to the comic, which is concrete. This is just simply one place online where it is listed. Again, feel free to Google it yourself or check out the cover if own the book.
-I agree that they were only in one or two storylines and never accepted memberhsip on panel, but neither did Jay Garrick or the Ray ever accept membership formally. Again, they wouldn't have been put on the cover by Perez and Busiek if they weren't members. As writers of the series and actual experts on the subject, I feel their decision carries far more weight than how anyone here may feel, and therefore, should be included. The decisions of the writers and artists on the series far outweighs how any fan may feel about who belongs.
-No speculation section if everyone feels that way. It was simply an idea I tossed out there to see what everyone thinks.
-If we wish to keep charcaters listed once, then some mention needs to be made that they served under another alias in their primary listing.
Remember, this page isn't necessarily for people who currently enjoy the book and the Justice League history, it's for new readers and fans to learn more about the team and it's memberhsip history too. Having a complete and accurate list is the least we can do to assist new fans and others with interest.
--Brianmccollum 18:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for writing. I agree "Our verifiability policy states that "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". My issue was that people were constantly moving and changing and deleteing things based on opinion and not fact, and that with all the changes made to the article, not one person bothered to post a reason why they did what they did on the discussion board with anything that even remotely came close to resembling a citation or reference. I will be happy to add a citation to each and every chracter on the board now if that is what it takes. Just let me know.
Perhaps you can help me add a citation then? For JLA/Avengers Collectors Edition, which was referred to my by Mr. Busiek when I emailed him about this discussion. It contains all the info I am referring to. Here is his message back to me.
"Sadly, my research notes on that are all stored away now, and I don't have time to dig them out -- too many deadlines.
But I would think the JLA/AVENGERS collector's edition, with its extensive notes, published by DC and therefore "official" would be support enough..."
kdb
Here is an exceprt from an interview with Kurt Busiek about the research that went into finding out Justice League membership:
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20612
"One of the promises made earlier by Busiek was that every team member in the histories of both the JLA and the Avengers would manage to find its way to the pages of the four-issue limited series. In setting out to do the monumental task, Busiek had to do some research, particularly for the JLA roster. "The Avengers were easy, of course - Tom Brevoort and I had already worked up a complete roster of the Avengers that had run in an Avengers Case Book a few years back, so it was just a matter of adding in the few new guys that had joined since. The JLA, though, was a whole 'nother story - there had been numerous roster lists done over the years, few of them accurate. So I worked with Tom Brevoort, and with JLA assistant editor Steve Wacker, and consulted with uberfans like John Wells (my continuity consultant on Power Company), Sean McQuaid (DC/Marvel enthusiast par excellence) and Andrew 'Captain Comics' Smith, who did a column in CBG about the team rosters around the time we were nailing down those last few appearances. And we e-mailed back and forth and argued and made judgment calls - at one point, I called up Dan Vado to nail him down on whether he'd intended Jay Garrick's appearances in the book as membership or as a guest appearance back when he was writing it - and eventually we had a complete roster, from the Atom to Zatanna to Power Girl's cat."
So I can't imagine any other source out there coming even remotely close to being anywhere near as good when it comes to who's in and who's out. That be said, it is not the only sourse, just the most superior, hands down. Again, check out the Collector's Edition at a comic shop or book store if you can or see what you can find online. The notes alone are quite an interesting read.
--Brianmccollum 18:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
For when it invariably goes back up, the "role call" from JLofA #8 includes Geo-Force on the JLA roster. And it does so without tagging him as a "guest". By that he is being presented as a member, and his joining happened between issues 7 and 8. - J Greb 06:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I would like to begin by applauding all contributors to Wikipedia comics pages. Given your contributions, I'm sure most of you are familiar with my site, Cosmic Teams and the JLA Library. Recently I've even considered merging some of my content with Wikipedia.
But today, I have to address the matter of blatant plagiarism. No argument can be made to convince me that parts of my site, specifically the JLA Membership list, haven't been lifted directly. I have always favored sharing online information. However, if I write things for my web site, I have a copyright on the words and content. It's my syntax, my table design, etc. If I had written them for Wikipedia, they would be fair game. But I did and do not.
To me, the crime here is that nobody ever even emailed me to ask about Wikipedia collaboration, or to share my information. I encourage the use of my site for research and fanfare. And many are the times I've agreed to the reprinting of my material. Please show the consideration you extend within Wikipedia to those working outside, in the spirit of Wikipedia.
Mike Kooiman
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/jla/jlafaq02.html
What's the source for his death? I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere by DC, only something in Wizard contradicted by Newsarama, neither an authoritative source (IMO) Darquis 22:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
As far as I know, Hawkeye is the only Marvel character to date to be officially made a member of the JLA. I'd say that's notable enough to merit being somewhere on this list. The question is, where? In the "2000s" section, since he was inducted in JLA/Avengers? Or somewhere else, since he is technically inactive by virtue of living in another reality (not to mention having been deceased for a time)? I defer to any "regulars" on this topic, since my knowledge/readership of the League is spotty at best. -- Pennyforth 14:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I added him as a member. Since he is mentioned as being a member on both his own page and the JLA/Avengers page, it seems only right to me at least that he be included in this list. Everyone agree? Yay, or Nay? -- Self-Cannibal
How many missions does a character need to be considered a member? If it is one, then many members need to be added, according to the JLTF site on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.136.207 (talk • contribs)
Two things - 1) Isn't the version from 52 no longer active? Isn't he now a meld of different characters, none of whom is Stein? 2) Whichever version of him is deemed active, he should be bolded as a current member. Whether that requires a new entry for him or not, I'm not sure Darquis (talk) 10:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Because James Dale Robinson's new series will feature a team simply called the Justice League, differentiation must be maintained. the Justice League and the Justice League of America will be two different teams, and will be confusing to readers once the new team debuts. For instance, when the article reads:
And down the line, on the new incarnation, also reads:
It will be incorrect. Batman and Supergirl will not be a part of the same team. There is also the issue of Hal Jordan, who will be active on both teams. If his section on this page reads:
It will also be incorrect because he is not just a member of one team, he is a member of that team and the Justice League of America. --CmdrClow (talk) 00:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
That won't be an issue, because it's only within the "Notes" box that this needs to be addressed. Martian Manhunter's currently reads "Deceased in Final Crisis #1" It makes no mention of the Task Force or any subsequent team in the "Notes" section. Confusion will only come out of where the members are active at this point in time. --CmdrClow (talk) 00:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
There have been several teams that have gone by the name "Justice League". And some were not remotely related, except for having a few "cross-over" members.
The post-Legends "Justice League" is an excellent example.
And how about List of Teen Titans members? : )
However, if you're really concerned, then let's just take a tighter view on WP:CRYSTAL in this case, and wait until we have more data (aka verifiable reliable sources : ) - jc37 06:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
There's no mention of terry in this article. He's sucessor to bruce wayne.--75.19.33.114 (talk) 07:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I noticed two problems in this section that require attention from someone capable of editing the article (that is semi-protected). Deadman is listed as honorary member as of Justice League of America #274, but that issue never existed. The first volume ended at issue #261, and volume 2 ended at #60. No other Justice League related series reached this number of issues, and I haven't found any information elsewhere regarding Deadman being an honorary member, except when info was extracted directly from this article. Also, Tempest is listed as honorary member as of JLoA Vol. 2, but, again, no other source of information mentions him as a member.Kc lobo (talk) 23:56, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
The way the New 52 section is formatted, it makes the JL/JLA situation look a little confusing. Could we maybe do separate titles and mention Martian Manhunter and Atom in both tables, since they are completely separate teams their memberships are separate? From the feel of the comics, I think Steve Trevor should actually be listed as a member of the JLA since he goes on their missions with them and is their field commander. Is there any specific person or people that are actively maintaining this page? 66.87.68.163 (talk) 03:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
I don't think Agent Liberty counts as a member - he helped in 3 missions, but declined membership. At best, he's honorary, if that. 24.87.73.167 (talk) 10:40, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
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Please add Enchantress (June Moon) and Nightmare Nurse (Asa) to New 52 Justice League Dark team members because in they were/are.
Please add Batwing (David Zavimbe), Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes), Olympian (Aristides Demetrios) and O.M.A.C (Kevin Kho) to New 52 Justice League International members because they were in the later issues.
JusticeLeagueAvengers (talk) 08:57, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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In the comics now, Shazam is a member of the Justice League. I believe that he should be included on the list, considering he's a member now. (This is New 52 Justice League) Odysseus6994 (talk) 10:42, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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As of April 2014, the Justice League of America is now the Justice League United, now located in Canada and fighting in both Canada and Outer Space. Four Justice League of America members, Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, Hawkman, and Stargirl, transferred to the Justice League United and Adam Strange, Animal Man, Supergirl, and Equinox are now members. (This is New 52 Justice League)
The events of the Crisis on Infinite Earth were followed by the retcon that Black Canary was a founding member. This was the canon continuity for over 20 years. This fact can be first seen in 1989's Secret Origins (Vol. 2, #32); which was later confirmed in 1998's 12-issues maxi-series JLA: Year One (Vol. 1); and again in 2007's weekly series 52 (Vol. 1, #51).
How can this be better reflected on this list? The note currently in place is not even accurate, since in addition to Wonder Woman, both Batman and Superman were also not founding members, until the 52 week 51, where the trinity joined the league with founding-member status, shortly after the group's formation.--Coquidragon (talk) 22:46, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
There are two issues with this section which is why I am deleting.
One, no other "Other Media" teams are included Second this team has yet to officially debut Thorn in Side (talk) 00:07, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi! With DC Rebirth, the Justice League has had some updates. Hal Jordan has his own series in space so he's taken a break from the League and he's appointed Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz. Those two have been added to the roster, but Jessica Cruz has returned to the team and that has not been updated. For the Justice League of America, that team is defunct but a new Justice League of America is being made in February 2017 with Batman who has dual membership in both Leagues, Black Canary, Lobo, the Ray, the Atom (Ryan Choi), KillerFrost (Caitlin Snow), and Vixen. Just wanted to give you guys a heads up on that. Maybe you want to separate DC Rebirth from the New 52 or keep it there and just add this new info to it? Your choice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheKnightWing (talk • contribs) 03:54, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Assume it was an accident?
I'd correct it, but this is a semi-protected page...sigh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:248:4600:130D:B83D:3CBB:BEFB:4D68 (talk) 14:23, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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Julie297657 (talk) 14:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
The Flash = Wally west
answer= yes, but the founding member of justice league is Barry Allen, but the he dies or something. and Wally west becomes the flash. why is wally west name not on the founding member of justice league? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julie297657 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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Jason Blood/Etrigan should be included with Nightwing, Faith and Hawkgirl under the JLA #69 cell in the "Joined In" column.
The Atom, Faith, Firestorm, Green Arrow, Hawkgirl, Jason Blood, Major Disaster and Nightwing are the members of the New Justice League assembled in this issue. TheGrimmPreacher (talk) 19:07, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
Lex Luthor is no longer in the Superfamily and Mera has left the Justice League. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C50:697F:C550:F5C4:393A:3F00:BE71 (talk) 21:43, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
If the film version of the League and the television (CW) version of the League have proper membership tables in the "In other media" section, seems that the DCAU version of the League warrants one as well?
At least the founding members:
Superman Batman Wonder Woman Green Lantern (John Stewart) The Flash (Wally West) Aquaman Martian Manhunter
with appropriate voice actor and "first appearance" information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:246:802:635B:9839:14FD:A5DB:8B62 (talk) 18:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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We need to update the list. So much stuff happened.
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We need to update the article now. Naomi, Hippolyta, and Black Adam just joined the team. 2600:1009:B018:EDA:90D0:EAD3:7753:F181 (talk) 13:07, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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ultra the multi - alien 2804:1CD4:89D5:D300:C42A:6BD2:8BFC:B712 (talk) 19:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
do we need an entry for the team from Endless Winter? Qwertzu111111 (talk) 15:12, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Hey I just remembered Robbie reed the boy who found a dial that can transform him into different super heroes 41.114.246.27 (talk) 20:07, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Justice League of America #9 Is when the origin of the League changed to add Batman & Superman. 2600:8800:4A00:6A00:9446:BFC9:73D5:16D4 (talk) 17:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Can someone add Jay Garrick since he joined the League in PhantomsLogan LaRusso (talk) 13:49, 14 June 2023 (UTC)