User talk:GGOTCC

Hello, GGOTCC. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for SS United States at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, this would be a big help in getting the article in a much more accessable state!

Best,

GGOTCC (talk) 03:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

No worries; I've now finished my c/e. I have adjusted and moved some of the images, i sent a few left and combined two in "Conservation (2010–2015)" in a single template because these are comparison photos and make more sense together. I added a couple of alt-texts to images. I also added a {{cn}} tag in the second para of "Conservation (2010–2015)" and an {{overcite}} tag in last para of "Artificial reef", as I don't think we need five refs to support three relatively simple sentences, though it may be the case each ref confirms a different sentence, in which cast that ref should go directly after the sentence it references. Good luck with your planned A-class nom and cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I was just reading the article, it looks amazing! Your work and skill is very appreciated.

I'll fix those issues and any others before I continue.

Thanks,

GGOTCC (talk) 04:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited USS Gyatt, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Atlantic coast.

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whoops GGOTCC (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi. There has been no vandalism on my part, only a clarification of misconceptions. Personal views are not encouraged; what is cited as the official language must be referenced. 2409:40E3:1048:CE1B:FCAE:9126:1A11:65F7 (talk) 07:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, thank you very much for reaching out!

I was concerned as the listed source was from one of the people most familiar with the innitial script, and who discussed what language it was in. Thank you for your explanation, this makes more sense. It may also be benifiical to mention this on the article's talk page if anyone else objects.

Best,

GGOTCC (talk) 02:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the redirects you've been creating lately, they are a help. It would be useful, though, if you could use WP:RCATs to tag them – in this case, {{r with possibilities}}{{r tosection}} should do the trick. Happy editing, Cremastra (u — c) 01:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

My bad, I did not those were tags that could be added! Thank you for catching those mistakes!

Happy New Year,

GGOTCC (talk) 02:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey firstly I wanted to thank you for fixing most of the office titles for the Presidents of the Confederation Congress. I just created a Wikipedia account and fixed the remaining titles to make them match up with the other pages but noticed an error on the John Hancock page I couldn't fix because the article is semi-protected.

You changed his title from 4th and 13th president of the Continental Congress to the 7th and 13th. I think you changed it to 7th as he would be the 7th president of the Confederation Congress from Samuel Huntington onward, but this doesn't work for his title as he is listed as the 7th president of the Continental Congress as well as the 13th when this leaves out his position as the 4th president of the Continental Congress. There is also no indication that this 7th position would be for the Confederation Congress and not the Continental Congress. The position of 13th president of the Continental Congress and 7th president of the Confederation Congress would both be the same position so it would either need a new office title to differentiate the two with 4th and 13th president of the Continental Congress and 7th president of the Confederation Congress listed as two separate office titles or reverting the page back to the way it was before just listing his title as 4th and 13th president of the Continental Congress

Personally, I'm not sure which would be better as I think the Continental Congress and the Confederation Congress are distinct enough to be listed separately to an extent though this would also call to attention whether it would similarly make sense to differentiate between the first and second Continental Congress as well or if it would make more sense to not differentiate between them at all for their office titles and simply listing them as presidents of the Continental Congress 1-16. If the titles of president of the Continental Congress and Confederation Congress were listed separately for John Hancock, then similarly Samuel Huntington would also need a new office title added as the 7th president of the Continental Congress alongside being the 1st president of the Confederation Congress.

I do somewhat think it may be simpler to just undo the differentiation between president of the Continental Congress and Confederation Congress for their titles as having them be separate creates a lot of ambiguity between the line between the three congresses and if the Continental Congress and Confederation Congress should be listed separately for someone occupying both offices. Both of the previous solutions of reverting it back to the way it was before or adding the two titles separately though would make the titles between all the pages for the presidents of the Continental and Confederation Congresses internally consistent for the most part as well though.

I am unable to edit the John Hancock page, so I leave what is best up to your discretion. How it is currently listed with him being the 7th and 13th president of the Continental Congress isn't correct by any metric though, so I am asking you to change his office title from how it is now to whatever you think would be best. Plugshirt (talk) 08:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

Thank you for reaching out! Truth be told, I am not an expert in the topic, so I will defer to you on the issue. I will check to see how the current listing is now and change it after I get back from school, although we can change how the list is ordered as well to what you think would be best.

Best,

GGOTCC (talk) 14:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

+ Welcome to Wikipedia! We are glad to have you. GGOTCC (talk) 14:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Admittedly I'm not an expert either and only really started doing any research into the Continental Congress a couple days ago when I noticed an error on the John Hanson page so I'm not quite sure in what ways distinguishing the Continental Congress and Confederation Congress should be done or if the distinction should even be made. My opinion for the John Hancock page is that it would probably be best to just revert it back to how it was where he was listed as the 4th and 13th president of the Continental Congress as that would make be the simplest fix that would make all the Continental Congress president pages have correct office titles. I think it would be best for now to just have their titles be technically correct and leave it up to future editors to decide if it should be changed further from there.

Thank you for being so helpful and for the welcome ~~~~ Plugshirt (talk) 20:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Sounds good! I'll do that now. GGOTCC (talk) 20:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Alright now all the pages are looking a lot better than they were before and pretty much all the major issues are eliminated. I've left some topics on the related pages for any future editors to decide how best to polish things up if they find it necessary. As a whole though the pages are vastly improved from how they were before and all the things that were outright false are gone which is definitely the most important factor. It's been a pleasure working with you. Plugshirt (talk) 03:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, and same to you! This issue would not have been fixed if you had not noticed anything or if you did not speak up. I hope you stick around WIkipedia, we would love to have you!

Best,

GGOTCC (talk) 11:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi GGOTCC. Thank you for your work on Curlew-class sloop. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thanks for creating the article! Have a blessed day!

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 12:24, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi GGOTCC,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news. Someone deleted the image of Dixie Arrow I uploaded from commons and, by extension, the article. I can't access Wikimedia commons through my device, which means I have no way to talk to the person that deleted the image or try to appeal to get it retrieved. I don't really want to re-upload it for fear they'll just take it down again, and I was never given a reason as to why the image was deleted. Could I possibly have some guidance as to what to do now?

Thanks again for all you've done. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 19:36, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Sure thing!

Thing is, the article is still up, only the images were deleted. I can relay a message on your behalf, but they were deleted as you did not source the images. Due to copyright law, only public domain images can be uploaded. While this applies to user-made conent (such as your logos) and government work (such as the police patch), sources from all images must be declared when they are first uploaded. In the case of Dixie Arrow, you can describe an image's copyright status when you upload it via Wikimedia commons or the built-in uploader in Wikipedia. If the image is still under copyright, or if you don't know if it is, then there is a good chance it would be deleted. I can upload a few images on your behalf if need be. Have you been using the Upload Wizard to add images? It walks you step-by-step to add information to images, which is avaible here: https://commons.m.wikimedia.orghttps://bestencyclopedia.com/Special:UploadWizard

Does this help?

I don't see why the images would be deleted again if you re-upload them and show that they are out of copyright.

Attached is also the message describing the deletions:

"most as they are unsourced and not own works. Kept an out of copyright police patch, two simple enough logos and a photograph that does appear to be an own work."

Best,

GGOTCC (talk) 19:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the commons link. I've re-uploaded the infobox photograph for Dixie Arrow, and I've bookmarked the link for future usage. The photo was from the USCG, which is part of the federal government, so it should be good as I have specified that in the upload. Thank you again for your help! -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

This looks better, nice job! GGOTCC (talk) 20:13, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article USS Gyatt you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Spartathenian -- Spartathenian (talk) 16:02, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

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GGOTCC (talk) 16:30, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

The article USS Gyatt you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:USS Gyatt for comments about the article, and Talk:USS Gyatt/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Spartathenian -- Spartathenian (talk) 14:24, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Hey GGOTCC, I've started work on a draft for the full Arrow-class in my sandbox. I recall this being something we discussed as a possibility while working on Dixie Arrow, and I've gone ahead and begun drafting such an article. The infobox (ship class) is currently being funny, just fyi.
For the ships themselves, I have individual subsections for all twelve. I'm thinking of having three or four paragraphs per subsection (plus a picture) describing each ship's construction, service, and fate. Where there are main articles, I have linked as well (currently only 5/12 ships have their own articles).
Just wanted to bring this to your attention. Thank you once more for all your work on Dixie Arrow! -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 15:10, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Oh, wonderful! The article looks great already. I've been meaning to be more active with your projects, however I have been sick and trying to finish up work on the USS Gyatt article. I will try and speak to my expertise by pulling up descriptions of their design/legacy to add some more vairety to the info. Thank you for all of your work! GGOTCC (talk) 20:22, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much. If you could also try to trim down the section on China Arrow by about a paragraph, that'd be appreciated. I'm worried that the sinking is a little bit too detailed as that was taken largely from the parent article and not Auke Visser's MOBIL Ships and Tankers (the website I've been largely using for getting info on the ships). I'm working on India Arrow at the moment, and the ships section will be 8/12 complete when her segment is finished. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 11:14, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

One more thing: if you could help fill out the infobox, that would be great. I've been trying to note the differences between ships there, but it felt too disorganized and as such I removed a majority of it. If there's a better way to list certain things than Ship 1-Ship 4 and the like, you can go ahead and change that too. I feel like it's not really understandable from an outsider's perspective. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 11:35, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the flurry of replies, but I have a two more things. The 'operators' segment in the infobox needs a lot of help (it's currently a jumble of operators mostly of Java Arrow), and if you could clean that up I would greatly appreciate it. I don't think there's much beyond that in terms of adding to the article, unless something interesting could be dug up on Empire Arrow or Levant Arrow (mainly the latter). PhoenixCaelestis (Talk) (Contribs) 00:35, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Sure thing! I've started with some copyediting, mainly to reduce specific details (ie. number of explosives, direction of sailing, names that are mentioned once) that would be better left to the unique article. I'm impressed by your current work and dedication. Nice job! GGOTCC (talk) 01:06, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm probably close to getting ready to copy and paste the sandboxed article into its own page. I'm going to start linking the page in the individual ship articles, changing the leads to something like "SS Example Arrow was an steam oil tanker.."

Also, a template (not sure what the proper term here is) on the bottom of the page that links to all the ships of the class might be useful for navigation. It'd also let us know which ships we could make full articles for, minus maybe Levant Arrow which had absolutely nothing happen to her over the course of her career. I'd be imagining something similar to the one for the Arrow-class gunvessels (template linked). I'm not quite sure how to make this myself (and I don't normally edit in source unless it's an infobox).

Thanks for all your help! PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 13:59, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

I have made several attempts to copy the sandboxed article to mainspace, and each time I cannot seem to get the infobox to come with it. I can get the notes, the images, the template at the bottom, etc. but never the infobox. Any chance you could create the article? It should be Arrow-class oil tanker (tanker is singular, not plural). Thanks! PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 12:38, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Sure thing! GGOTCC (talk) 18:02, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

How does it look? GGOTCC (talk) 18:07, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you! PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 18:08, 16 March 2025 (UTC)