User talk:SusanLesch

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Hi Susan,

I would like to discuss this with you off wiki. DM me at @voxpopulare and I will give you my email address so we can communicate in more detail in a more private manner before communicating publicly.

RachelWex

!!!! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:47, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, FFF! My writing teacher told us we each get five lifetime exclamation points. We both hit our quota today. 😃 -SusanLesch (talk) 20:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, SusanLesch! Your work on Redwood National and State Parks has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. I hereby award you this Featured Article Save Award, or FASA. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 14:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Nikkimaria. Very happy we were able to save this one. -SusanLesch (talk) 23:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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Myotus (talk) 20:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

In the area? You're invited to the November 2024 Minnesota User Group Meeting The organizer of this soiree is Joe Hoover aka Myotus feel free to drop him a message. Okay its been a while since the Wikipedia Minnesota User Group has meet. Since the last time we meet there has been social upheaval, plague, etc... - no small thing to be sure. There has been some sad lonely discussions on the Minnesota Meetup page on getting together but little action. So here it is. Come and be seen. Talk about future the Minnesota User Group and see what nefarious plans we can hatch. Date: Sunday, November 3, 2024 Time: 1 to 3:30 pm (reminder - Daylight Saving Time ends) Place: Wild Mind Ales' 6031 Pillsbury Ave, Minneapolis, MN Look forward to seeing folks!

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Just to let you know I've reverted your edits to the blurb for the TFA day. We have no room to add anything. We have a limit of 1025 characters, it was at 1023 before you edited, and you added 130 characters. You can edit the blurb, I hope you do, but we can't make it longer. Well, not more than two characters longer. Sorry I didn't notice this before. Wehwalt (talk) 21:23, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Wehwalt, Sorry to bother you. I measure characters in BBEdit and suspect you measure some other way. I cut two phrases and added a sentence. Is it within your guidelines? Thanks for your help. -SusanLesch (talk) 23:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Word says it's 1071 including spaces. It would help to know what to count. Do I include (Full article...)? And omit wiki markup? -SusanLesch (talk) 23:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Tried again and come out <1000, so it's all right. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:16, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hey Susan, I'm sure you know how appreciative I am of your work over on Donald Trump. I have very high hopes for where we can get this article, and having editors like you with experience working in featured content processes provides extraordinarily valuable insights. I read an essay once where it said you should not be able to extrapolate an editors opinions from their edits. I agreed with that, and I really admire how you are one of the few on the page to whom I can say that applies given your commitment to NPOV. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 16:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! From one Marion Nestle fan to another, we've got our hands full. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I saw your comment on avoiding the lede. I'm also trying to avoid the lede. I've noticed tone creeping into your comments: definitely don't write messages other editors will read as calling them immature. I'm partly telling myself this as well; I have stepped back a bit shortly to the chocolate pages because I don't like what contentious topics apparently do to my heart. I'm sure you'll be able to take this message in good faith, that as far as Wikipedia 'needs' you on that page, you have a life outside. If this part of the hobby is not bringing you peace and satisfaction but irritation, I don't think it's worth it and there are plenty of articles on redwoods to write. Apart from all that, being short will also make editors feel you are against them and less inclined to take on your argumentation. Hope you're well. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 21:28, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Right you are. I will slow down and skip Trump talk for a while to cool off. Thanks for saying something.

Incidentally, Internet Archive lost their lawsuit (which will affect a number of books available for free). -SusanLesch (talk) 15:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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--Lajmmoore (talk 18:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

This is a thought inspired by Talk:Donald Trump#Childhood: Since it sounds like you have some decent books on hand, I hope you will replace some of the non-book sources, especially the WP:PRIMARYNEWS sources and the sources that are only used once, with better sources.

I feel like I'm explaining this badly, so to give an example, if the sentence says "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs.<ref>Today's news headline</ref>", it would IMO be helpful even if you only replaced the refs with a {{sfn}} to a good book that gets re-used many times, even if you didn't touch any of the content. It would be better for the article to have 800 sfns to a couple of decent books than to have 800 refs to newspaper articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for a roadmap I can use. Can you think of Wikipedia policy I can point to that as reliable sources, books are preferable to newspaper articles? -SusanLesch (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

My main concern is WP:PEIS limits, and 800 small templates are less likely to break than than 800 huge templates (as measured in processing cost, not size displayed on the page), but to answer your question, I'd start with these two points:

• Scholarly sources are preferred over non-scholarly sources per WP:RS ("When available, academic and peer-reviewed publications, scholarly monographs, and textbooks are usually the most reliable sources").
• Primary sources, including WP:PRIMARYNEWS, should be used sparingly per WP:NOR ("Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources, and to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources").

A book, especially if it is written by an academic or published by a university press, could fall under both of those points. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Right! I am concerned about PEIS, though I don't understand it well, and my proposals to deal with it got poor reception. Cf. the edit notice on my user page.

Wikipedia's bibliography of Donald Trump: About Trump gives me about 5 (out of 100) recognizably academic publishers (Texas A&M University: Jennifer Mercieca 2020, Oxford: Dan P McAdams 2020, Uni Chicago: Daniel W. Drezner 2020, Uni Virginia: Michael Nelson 2018, and maybe Brookings Institution: Hal Brands 2018). They aren't necessarily written with a neutral point of view. I picked two Pultizer winners (D'Antonio and Haberman) to start and I hope they help. -SusanLesch (talk) 23:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

That sounds like a good plan. In my experience, editors are usually concerned primarily about the text of the article, and if you don't touch that, they mostly won't object to replacing a one-off news article with a book that's already been cited repeatedly in the article. That article's a bit weird (e.g., a couple of months ago, we had editors defending a blatant violation of BLPPRIMARY), but I would think that replacing a lot of the single-use sources would be feasible. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

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Myotus (talk) 23:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

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Congrats on getting Minneapolis back to TFA! I know it took an enormous amount of work to save it at that FAR. Hog Farm _Talk 01:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Ditto. I'm overjoyed to see it on the main page today. Thank you. gobonobo ^{+ c} 02:08, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you, and all involved, today for Minneapolis, a 2007 FA, maintained in quality! - Happy new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, lady and gentlemen! I was mistaken about when it would appear, but for your talk page notes.

Congratulations on becoming an adminstrator, Hog Farm. You put in a lot of work on this article. Happy New Year to all! -SusanLesch (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

You need to crack a lot of eggs to make an omelette. Well done. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Re , I read that as Steinbrenner ad-libbed. Trump's was scripted, which is the opposite. ―Mandruss ☎ 18:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Mandruss. Trump ad-libbed. The way I understand it, the whole show was unscripted; the crew liked it when they heard it, so they kept it. Sorry I don't have time until this evening to work on this. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:59, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

P.S. I meant "overwork" in the second sense in my edit summary.

Mandruss, The Washington Post explains this:

Trump’s signature line from his NBC reality show, “The Apprentice,” was, in quintessential Trump style, improvised. He blurted it out during the taping of his first show, and the crew instantly knew they had a winner.

-SusanLesch (talk) 18:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Ok. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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